In part 2 of our JFK Preview Chris and Sam talk about notable scratches from the race and what kind of conditions the runners can expect on Saturday and the implications for how that could impact the race dynamics, strategy and gear decisions.

Sam offers some tips from his own experiences in running the race, especially how to set body position on the AT to protect your ankles and hamstrings and set-up you up for success later in the race. We talk about why the flatness of the canal path at JFK can be tricky for trail runners and offer some tips to rise to that challenge.

In the end we revise our picks and wish you all well out there!

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Wow! What an incredible person Holly Benner is!

Holly and Sam sit down in this part "Getting to Know You" part JFK strategy session that tracks Holly's movement through sport bringing her to this current moment. We speak about Metta Performance, her coaching/consulting business with Co-Founder Michael Seiler. Holly illuminates us on her coaching philosophy that focuses on conversation and listening within our trades, be that on the trails or in the board room! Their company, Metta Performance, takes its name from a Pali word, meaning "loving-kindness." Holly puts this front and center in contrast to the popular image of the tortured athlete battling their demons. It's a view so many of us struggle with. She offers this alternative in a way that feels calming, like a hug from someone who really cares about you fully. It's there, even in her words.

We move from there into her approach for JFK and it's clear Holly has done her homework and is ready to rock!

Make sure to follow Holly's race this weekend as well as on her instagram @holly.a.benner and Strava.

If you find her approach as intriguing as I did, please check out her professional website mettaperformance.com

We welcome elite ultra trail runner and entrepreneur Ryan Clifford to the pod! In take 2 with Ryan we talk starting a small business race strategy nuts and bolts and get to know what happens 20 years later if you break 7 minutes in the mile at age 7! Seriously? Sheesh...

This guy does it differently, making his own projects and problems to solve.

Questions that may go unanswered... Is there anything this guy won't tackle? Will anyone be able to conquer his escape rooms? Will Cody have to carry Ryan to their Grand Opening?

Make sure to follow Ryan Clifford and find out...