It's the holidays, and we're spending it with the family. The Rare Candy and Agitator boys are in the cave of the red-headed giant chopping it up about Cormac McCarthy's alleged secret muse, Aaron Gwyn, audiobooks counting as reading, the end of cancel culture, aliens from Atlantis, Columbine and Vegas and Sandy (oh, my!), interplanetary travel, Elon Musk, caring vs not caring what other artists think, and more. Listen to/read Rare Candy at rarecandy.substack.com and everywhere you listen to podcasts. More on the Broken River Books collective at brokenriverbooks.com Horse around with us on X: JDO @jdowrites Kelby @KelbyLosackBRB Rare Candy @Rarecandypod1 Buy Rare Candy swag Cop that Agitator drip More at patreon.com/agitator

Tavora Lea's Pain System + Sleep Token [Guest: Tavora Lea]

I had Adam Cesare on the podcast! We talk about how to sell books at cons. I really admire this dude. He has a real love for the thing, and he goes out and fucking DOES IT. He wrote The Summer Job, Tribesmen, Video Night, and The Con Season.

Talking Terrifier, Terrifier 2, The Substance, construction, making money off writing, labels and genres, doing the Trump weave, indie publishing insider secrets, Logan Berry's design-heavy books and theatrical plays, and more. Find Logan Berry on X @lgnbrry and at https://logan-berry.com/

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Keeping film brain out of literature. Anti-adaptation. Not all content is art. How to stop the Joker. ODDITY. PULSE. Books about cultivation and dragons. Update/teaser on publishing Adam Lehrer's next novel. What makes great art. Shop talk. Fences and parking lots. Who will save you from drowning? Support the show and get access to the full archive plus bonus content at patreon.com/agitator More on our writing: brokenriverbooks.com