Show Notes

• About Liberty Road podcast and organization
• “Pursuing your future doesn't end at 40. In fact, it may mark the beginning of knowing who you are, what you're capable of, and what you really want.”
• What is the Thrive Center?
• The intersection of psychological science and spiritual wisdom
• “The irony of the term of mental health is that it's actually defined by mental illness, or pathology, or depression, or anxiety.”
• What can go right with people?
• Explicit interest in spirituality: “There’s gotta be something more.”
• “A historical rift between religiously or spiritual things and psychological science.”
• Research-backed spirituality
• “A thriving life is a life on-purpose.”
• “It’s not just the journey, it’s the direction.”
• Thriving at the intersection of three pillars of life: individual, relational, and aspirational.
• “In the deepest part of my being, I really want to enable people to thrive in a very holistic way. And live more fully into who they are. Living more authentically, living with deeper connection and, and with deeper purpose.”
• Not just another self-help platform
• “How do you help us understand purpose or thriving when maybe we haven't put ourselves first?”
• Balance and moving through extremes
• Life is fluid and dynamic
• Middle age as a period of flux
• Looking at opportunities in challenges
• Motherhood and service for others
• Finding joy
• Examples for each three pillars
• Stay-at-home mom moving into a new phase of life
• “Start with loving ourselves and giving ourselves grace.”
• “Bring out the best in yourself. Love yourself.”
• What images come to mind as positive memories of competency and strength?
• Obligations in relationships
• What are we actually living out? Is it consistent with our values?
• Change your environment or change yourself.
• What is spirituality?
• “Spirituality is people’s perception and experience of transcendence. … But also our response to transcendence.”
• Spiritual health and psychology—”Not all spirituality is helpful or healthful.”
• “I think we're living in a spiritually void time.”
• “Have we deprived ourselves of something in an effort to not deprive ourselves of anything?”
• Pam King on life in the “middle third”
• Reprioritizing and making professional shifts
• What keeps you grounded? 10 minutes of silence of meditation.
• What are you currently reading? Open and Unafraid by W. David Taylor / Strength That Remains, by Tracy Kidder
• What is a skincare musthave? SBLA Facial Wand
• What has surprised you about the good life? There’s more losses than anticipated.
• What has your work done to liberate you? Reworking and reconsidering purpose; “Diving deep in conversations with people has been liberating and wonderful.”

About Nada Jones

Nada Jones is the founder and CEO of Liberty Road, a podcast and organization for entrepreneurial women focused on growth, wisdom, sharing stories, and finding purpose. Discover more of her work at www.liberty-road.com.

About the Thrive Center

• Learn more at thethrivecenter.org.
• Follow us on Instagram @thrivecenter
• Follow us on X @thrivecenter
• Follow us on LinkedIn @thethrivecenter

About Dr. Pam King

Dr. Pam King is Executive Director the Thrive Center and is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science at Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy. Follow her @drpamking.

About With & For

• Host: Pam King
• Senior Director and Producer: Jill Westbrook
• Operations Manager: Lauren Kim
• Social Media Graphic Designer: Wren Juergensen
• Consulting Producer: Evan Rosa

Special thanks to the team at Fuller Studio and the Fuller School of Psychology & Marriage and Family Therapy.