A struggling Chicago hospital did just about anything to stay afloat including performing hundreds of unnecessary tests and procedures on patients. In the end, multiple patients were dead and its former owner fled the country. Left behind was an abandoned hospital that became a magnet for crime and a symbol of egregious insurance fraud.

If the Walls Could Talk recounts the true crimes and tangled history of Chicago's Edgewater Hospital as told by former staff, patients, lawyers, and investigators.

The hospital opened in 1929 and is the birthplace of Hillary Clinton and John Wayne Gacy. It was Chicago's premiere medical facility for 60 years until a new owner took over. Hear the shocking story of how the hospital's former owner managed to evade the law and why many believe he got away with it.

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Edgewater Hospital is the birthplace of Hillary Clinton, John Wayne Gacy and tens of thousands of Chicagoans. It was Chicago's premier hospital for 50 years -- but that changed when a man named Peter Rogan purchased it. The fraud that followed quickly overshadowed the hospital's once-sterling reputation. In this true crime series, former Edgewater Hospital staff, patients and investigators recount the horrors that happened and why many believe Peter Rogan got away with it.

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Learn more about John Borowski’s book (John Wayne Gacy: Hunting a Predator) and film on his website.

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Patients who were not sick were being admitted to Edgewater Hospital and placed on a second floor unit. This mysterious section of the hospital was off-limits to most staff...leaving them wondering what was happening. Before long, the FBI opened an investigation.

See pictures of Edgewater's infamous patient: John Wayne Gacy and more on the episode page of our website: IftheWallsCouldTalkPodcast.com

Backdraft was one of the handful of movies filmed at Edgewater Hospital. Hear an in-depth interview about the making of the movie on Episode 302 of the Chicago History Podcast.

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Multiple Edgewater Hospital doctors secretly recorded conversations for the FBI. This provided the feds with the gory details on how the hospital lured in patients...including offering cash and cigarettes. Most alarming were the invasive tests and procedures doctors performed on these patients...whether they needed them or not.

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Dr. Andrew Cubria was Edgewater Hospital's Cardiologist who performed hundreds of medically unnecessary procedures on patients. The FBI learned two of those patients died as a result. Equally shocking was what Dr. Cubria did to cover up what happened.

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The fear that someone might be cooperating with the FBI spready among Edgewater Hospital management. That led to strange meetings being conducted in unusual places. And then the investigation came to a screeching halt leaving everyone asking: "Now what?".

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Music in this episode comes from the YouTube Audio Library. Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Artist: http://audionautix.com/

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As a handful of Edgewater Hospital doctors and Roger Ehmen headed to prison, Peter Rogan walked away a free man. While not charged criminally, Peter was sued in civil court. The United States vs Peter Rogan went to trial in 2006 and featured plenty of explosive testimony. At stake were tens of millions of Peter's dollars.

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After losing a $64 million civil suit to the government, Peter Rogan fled to Canada and lived in a swanky Vancouver penthouse. Even after the feds filed criminal charges, they struggled to bring him back back to Chicago. Meanwhile, the Edgewater Hospital campus crumbled and became a magnet for crime. The neighborhood demanded it be torn down.

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