• The Trilogy of Violence: Celtic v Racing 1967 - Part One
    Oct 29 2024

    This week on It Was What It Was, we’re traveling back to 1967, when Celtic’s legendary Lisbon Lions clashed with Racing Club in an unforgettable, fiery three-match series for the Intercontinental Cup.

    In Part One, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper set the stage before the first leg at Hampden Park, where Jock Stein’s side secured a 1-0 advantage to take to South America - though the real drama was just beginning.

    Join us on Thursday for the thrilling conclusion of this historic showdown in Part Two!

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    47 mins
  • El Clasico: Civil War, Conspiracies And Scandal With Sid Lowe
    Oct 22 2024

    This week on It Was What It Was, we're talking one of football's greatest rivalries: Real Madrid and Barcelona.


    In the week of El Clasico, Spanish football expert Sid Lowe joins Rob and Jonathan to discuss the history, politics and scandal behind possibly the biggest club match in football.


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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • Sacchi's Football Revolution: Part Four - World Cup Heartache and Legacy
    Oct 17 2024

    Join us for the final part of our special series on the shoe salesman who changed football forever: Arrigo Sacchi.

    In this episode of It Was What It Was, Sacchi comes to the end of his first spell at AC Milan and answers his country's call - managing the Italian national side at the World Cup in 1994 and Euro 96.


    This episode is the last in our series on Sacchi’s extraordinary career and his lasting mark on the sport. It starts with our Sacchi intro episode with Jamie Carragher (please go back and listen if you missed it!).

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    48 mins
  • Sacchi's Football Revolution: Part Three - Creating Milan's Immortals
    Oct 15 2024

    It Was What It Was continues our special look into the life and career of one of football's greatest and most influential managers: Arrigo Sacchi.

    In this episode, Sacchi has finally arrived at AC Milan and, with a team of legends in the making, his greatest work is about to begin.


    This episode is part of our series on Sacchi’s extraordinary career and his lasting mark on the sport. It starts with our Sacchi intro episode with Jamie Carragher (please go back and listen if you missed it!).

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    52 mins
  • Sacchi's Football Revolution: Part Two - Small Beginnings and Big Breaks
    Oct 10 2024

    It Was What It Was continues the epic story of arguably the most important manager in modern football history: Arrigo Sacchi.

    In this episode, Rob and Jonathan explore Sacchi's rise through the coaching ranks. Sacchi earns his spurs in youth coaching, before his impressive work at Parma turns the head of Italian giants AC Milan, and their enigmatic owner Silvio Berlusconi.


    This episode is part of our special series on Sacchi’s extraordinary career and his lasting mark on the sport. It starts with our Sacchi intro episode with Jamie Carragher (please go back and listen if you missed it!).

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    51 mins
  • Sacchi's Football Revolution: Part One - The Making Of A Genius
    Oct 8 2024

    This week on It Was What It Was, we continue the epic story of arguably the most important manager in modern football history: Arrigo Sacchi.

    Following-up from last week's episode with Jamie Carragher (please go back and listen if you missed it!), Rob and Jonathan go back to Sacchi's roots and how his legend began.


    We discuss Sacchi's early years, from shoe factories to football coaching - and the family tragedy that changed the Italian's destiny and the destiny of European football.


    This episode is part of our special series on Sacchi’s extraordinary career and his lasting mark on the sport.

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    50 mins
  • Carragher on Sacchi: The Genius Who Revolutionised Football
    Oct 1 2024

    Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was.

    Special guest and Liverpool legend Jamie Carragher join hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper as they explore the legacy of one of football’s most iconic managers: Arrigo Sacchi.

    Widely regarded as one of the greatest minds in the sport, Sacchi led AC Milan to back-to-back European Cup triumphs in the late 1980s, building a team that Carragher grew up idolising.

    In this episode, Carragher discusses Sacchi's profound influence on football, how his revolutionary tactics reshaped the game, and the impact they had on Carragher's own playing career.

    Together, the trio provides an in-depth analysis of Sacchi’s extraordinary career and his lasting mark on the sport.

    Next week we dig even deeper into the genius of Sacchi, as Jonathan and Rob kick off their special four-part series on his life, starting with his early years.


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    57 mins
  • Manchester City Guilty! The 1904/05 Scandal
    Sep 24 2024

    Welcome to the latest episode of The Overlap’s football history podcast, It Was What It Was.


    On this week's episode we travel back to one of the biggest financial scandals in early English football—the 1904-05 Manchester City scandal.


    Journalists Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper unravel the events that saw Manchester City, fresh off their FA Cup win, embroiled in controversy over illegal player payments.


    It Was What It Was explores how the Football Association’s wage cap led to the club’s downfall, forcing manager Tom Maley and 17 players—including star winger Billy Meredith—banned.


    You’ll hear how this scandal not only rocked Manchester City but also paved the way for Manchester United's rise, reshaping the footballing landscape in ways that still echo today with City currently facing 115 charges as of September 2024.


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    56 mins