Episodes

  • Let’s Talk Reunion: The Blessings of Bible Study with Friends
    May 16 2024

    In this reunion episode of Let’s Talk, Jackie Hill Perry, Jasmine Holmes, and Melissa Kruger highlight the blessings and benefits of digging into the Bible with other believers as they discuss their new Bible study on the book of Ephesians.

    They talk about why they love Ephesians, what’s difficult about it, and what they gleaned from studying it together over the past two years. They also spend time catching up on their personal projects and plans for the summer.

    Links from this episode:

    • Ephesians - Bible Study Book with Video Access: A Study of Faith and Practice (Lifeway)
    • With The Perry's on Apple Podcasts
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    40 mins
  • Top Theology Stories of 2022
    Dec 21 2022

    In this special edition episode, Collin Hansen is joined by Melissa Kruger as they look back on the big stories and trends of 2022, discuss how God has moved in and through their ministries, and share books that have stuck with them. They also take some time to thank you, their listeners, for encouraging them in the work of Gospelbound and Let's Talk.

    To listen to the full episode on the Gospelbound podcast, click here.

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    20 mins
  • Live from TGCW22: Growing in Gratitude
    Jul 27 2022

    In this episode of Let's Talk, recorded live at TGCW22 in Indianapolis, Jackie Hill Perry, Jasmine Holmes, and Melissa Kruger discuss gratitude—why we struggle with it and how to cultivate it in our lives.

    If you've ever struggled to be thankful, listen in to this conversation for practical wisdom on walking in gratitude.

    Note: This is the final episode of Let's Talk. We've had a great time making this podcast for three seasons, and we're grateful to all of you for listening! Check out more episodes of Let's Talk and other podcast shows from TGC at tgc.org/podcasts.

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    37 mins
  • Your Questions, Answered!
    Mar 23 2022

    On this final episode of season 3 of Let's Talk, Jackie Hill Perry, Jasmine Holmes, and Melissa Kruger answer listener questions that range all over the place, including:

    • What's a tip for improving communication in marriage?
    • DIY, yes or no?
    • What women's events have impacted you?
    • Why don't we talk about women and porn use in the church?
    • Do you like sports?
    • What's the remedy for compassion fatigue?
    • Do you all feel pressure to comment on social media about what's happening in the world?
    • What are practical ways to get time away from your kids?
    • How do you talk about sex in marriage?
    • How do you cope with seasons of loneliness?
    • What song do you want sung at your funeral?
    • How do you start a conversation when you're seated next to someone at a dinner party?

    We hope you've enjoyed this season of Let's Talk!

    Mentioned in this episode:

    • Does the God of the Bible Hate Women?
    • In the Throne Room: The God of Holiness and Hope
    • ‘The Church in Her House’: The Dynamic Ministry of Women in Early Christianity
    • "Total Praise" by Richard Smallwood
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    52 mins
  • Recognizing and Fighting Idolatry
    Mar 16 2022

    What is idolatry in our day? The people of Israel were tempted to bow down to literal idols, and in many parts of the world, literal idols and effigies are still believed to hold enormous power. But in the post-Christian West, idolatry—though harder to define—is just as prevalent.

    On this episode of Let's Talk, Jackie Hill Perry, Jasmine Holmes, and Melissa Kruger talk about how and why we are tempted to make idols. Although some may think we slip into idolatry when we want too much, Jackie says that, actually, “Idolatry is wanting too little.” When we make idols, she says, we're looking to something that has been created to deliver us. But we need to look higher, above what is created to our Creator.

    Mentioned in this Episode:

    The Expulsive Power of a New Affection by Thomas Chalmers

    Related Resources:

    • Sin as Idolatry (essay)
    • How to Expose the Idols in Your Life
    • Juan Sanchez on Image, Identity, and Idolatry (podcast)
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    41 mins
  • Obedience and the Law
    Mar 9 2022

    Christians are saved by grace, not by works of the law. So where does obedience fit into the Christian life?

    On this episode of Let's Talk, Jackie Hill Perry, Jasmine Holmes, and Melissa Kruger talk about how to have a biblical view of obedience and the law. They talk about how to make sense of the Book of James, whether God's law evolves, how to avoid legalism in our homes, and how we sometimes make laws out of our own preferences.

    The Bible speaks of God's commands as a precious gift. Melissa says, “The law shows us what life by the Spirit looks like.” We should never trust in works of the law for our salvation, but by God's grace, as we mature in our faith, we will learn to treasure his commands.

    Related Resources:

    • Making Sense of Scripture's 'Inconsistency'
    • Is the Book of James Really Christian?
    • Why Don’t Christians Keep the Jewish Law?
    • 3 Dangers of (Merely) Messy Christianity
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    48 mins
  • Identifying False Teaching
    Mar 2 2022

    Sometimes it's easy to spot false teaching, but not all false teachers are so recognizable. The false teachers to whom we are most susceptible may be the hardest to recognize. "There are people [around you] who are going unaware, unnoticed," says Jackie Hill Perry, "that are teaching things that are not in line with the faith, but you don't see it. Why? Because they look like you."

    On this episode of Let's Talk, Jackie Hill Perry, Jasmine Holmes, and Melissa Kruger talk about how to identify false teachers as well as the difference between false teaching and mere differences of interpretation. They also talk about how to have a conversation with a friend who follows someone you're concerned may be a false teacher.

    Related Reading:

    • 15 Discernment Diagnostics
    • Costi Hinn Exposes the Most Abusive Kind of False Teaching Today (podcast)
    • Beware of Broken Wolves
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    35 mins
  • A Conversation About Race
    Feb 23 2022

    The year 2020 was a year when Americans talked about race. But many would question whether we've gotten better at talking about race, or if we're worse at it than ever. So much is said that is hurtful, yet not saying something may be perceived as saying something.

    On this episode of Let's Talk, Jackie Hill Perry, Jasmine Holmes, and Melissa Kruger give practical advice from their own experience for how to talk constructively about race. They discuss why critical race theory has become so controversial, and they talk about books that have helped them understand the history or race relations in America.

    Above all, they conclude that it's not what you say or don't say that determines whether you can have a productive conversation about race; it's whether you come into a discussion with compassion and humility.

    Recommended Reading:

    • The Warmth of Other Suns by Isabel Wilkerson
    • The Underground Railroad [TGC's Review] by Colson Whitehead
    • The Personal Librarian by Marie Benedict
    • Caste by Isabel Wilkerson
    • Just Mercy by Brian Stevenson
    • Carved in Ebony by Jasmine Holmes

    Related Resources:

    • Shai Linne on Pursuing Unity When Discussing Ethnicity
    • Agents of Healing for Racial Division (podcast)
    • How to Reach Across the Racial Divide (podcast)
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    54 mins