On Location With Sean Martin And Marco Ciappelli

By: Sean Martin ITSPmagazine Marco Ciappelli
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  • Whether we are there or not, ITSPmagazine still gets the best stories. Plenty of conferences and events spark our curiosity and allow us to start conversations with some of the world's brightest minds. In-person or virtually, Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli go on-location and sit down with them at the intersection of technology, cybersecurity, and society. Together, we discover what the synergy of these three elements means for the future of humanity.
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  • How Do We Make Decisions in Cyber Security? Operational, Tactical, and Strategic Decision-Making in the Age of AI | An Australian Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne Conversation with Ivano Bongiovanni | On Location Coverage

    How Do We Make Decisions in Cyber Security? Operational, Tactical, and Strategic Decision-Making in the Age of AI | An Australian Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne Conversation with Ivano Bongiovanni | On Location Coverage
    Nov 28 2024
    Guest: Ivano Bongiovanni, General Manager / Sr Lecturer, AusCERT / UQOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivano-bongiovanni-cybersecurity-management/At AU Cyber Con | https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/speakers/ivano-bongiovanni-ibtppHosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesThis AISA Cyber Con 2024 On Location podcast episode recorded in Melbourne spotlights critical discussions led by Ivano Bongiovanni, General Manager for AUSCERT and Senior Lecturer in Cybersecurity at the University of Queensland. The dialogue centers on pivotal issues shaping organizational approaches to cybersecurity, from decision-making factors to data governance and regulatory influences.Bongiovanni discusses his research on decision-making in cybersecurity, conducted across six large organizations. By interviewing professionals at operational, tactical, and strategic levels, the study examines the multifaceted factors driving decisions, such as configuring security systems or choosing cyber insurance. The research identifies four primary influence levels: industry, organizational, team, and individual. Key drivers include regulations at the industry level, organizational culture, and access to collaborative professional forums. These insights aim to provide decision-makers with a reflective framework to ensure comprehensive and informed choices.Another prominent focus is data governance. Bongiovanni emphasizes its role as both a foundation for robust cybersecurity and a potential avenue for organizational value creation. He highlights the challenges organizations face in mapping, managing, and securing their data. While traditionally viewed through a lens of loss prevention, he argues that effective data governance can unlock operational efficiencies and new business opportunities. This aligns with a broader industry shift to link cybersecurity investments to strategic value creation, rather than purely protective measures.The episode also touches on evolving regulatory landscapes. Bongiovanni outlines the increasing scrutiny on board members and CISOs (Chief Information Security Officers) regarding cybersecurity accountability. While Australia is still catching up with global trends, parallels are drawn to the U.S., where regulations like the SEC’s proposed cyber disclosures link leadership liability to organizational cybersecurity practices. In Australia, existing duties of care under the Corporations Act are becoming focal points for regulatory expectations.Information-sharing frameworks, such as ISACs (Information Sharing and Analysis Centers), also feature in the discussion. Bongiovanni underscores their importance in fostering collaboration, particularly in sectors like higher education and healthcare. He notes the ongoing cultural shift encouraging organizations to share threat intelligence securely, which is essential for collective resilience.Through Bongiovanni’s contributions, this episode highlights both the challenges and opportunities in cybersecurity decision-making, emphasizing a nuanced understanding of regulatory, cultural, and technical dynamics.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesFuture is now: Cautious reflections and bold predictions on cyber security in the years to come (Session): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-FsEVnuge9uHow do we make decisions in cybersecurity? Operational, tactical, and strategic decision-making in the age of AI (Session): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-BdOGZjahUeThe executive playbook: Elevate your cyber security through data governance (Workshop): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/workshops/workshop-rxAAQPTLUJLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf
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    25 mins
  • The Top 10 Skills Your Security Awareness and Culture Person Must Have (With No IT or Cyber Skills in Sight) | An Australian Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne Conversation with Daisy Wong | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli

    The Top 10 Skills Your Security Awareness and Culture Person Must Have (With No IT or Cyber Skills in Sight) | An Australian Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne Conversation with Daisy Wong | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli
    Nov 28 2024
    Guest: Daisy Wong, Head of Security Awareness, MedibankOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/daisywong127/Hosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesKicking off the conversation, Marco noted the absence of his co-host Sean, whose focus often leans technical. This opened the door for a deeper exploration into the human and operational side of cybersecurity, an area Daisy Wong is uniquely equipped to discuss.Daisy’s career journey, from earning a marketing degree to becoming Medibank’s Head of Security Awareness, is rooted in understanding human behavior. Her hands-on experience with phishing emails and time spent in a pen-testing team revealed how critical culture and communication are to effective cybersecurity.The Power of Communication and Culture in CybersecurityDaisy highlighted how her ability to simplify complex technical language became the cornerstone of her work in cybersecurity awareness. She emphasized that soft skills, like communication, are just as essential as technical know-how in navigating today’s cyber challenges.Drawing cultural parallels, Daisy shared analogies from her cultural heritage, like the tradition of removing shoes before entering a home, and compared them to cybersecurity practices. Marco added an Italian twist, pointing to customs like cheek-kissing as a metaphor for ingrained behaviors. Together, they underscored how fostering a security-first mindset mirrors cultural conditioning—it requires intentionality, consistency, and collective effort.Breaking Barriers and Building BridgesOne of the key takeaways from the discussion was the need to break down the misconception that cybersecurity is solely a technical field. Daisy argued for creating environments where employees feel safe reporting security concerns, regardless of their technical background.She shared strategies for fostering collaboration, like simple yet impactful initiatives during Cyber Awareness Month. These efforts, such as wearing branded T-shirts, can make security a shared responsibility and encourage open communication across teams.Staying Ahead in an Evolving Threat LandscapeDaisy also spoke about how cyber threats are evolving, particularly with the rise of generative AI. Traditional warning signs, like spelling mistakes in phishing emails, are being replaced with far more sophisticated tactics. She emphasized the need for organizations to stay adaptable and for individuals to remain vigilant.While AI offers tools to identify risks, Daisy and Marco agreed that personal accountability and fundamental awareness remain irreplaceable in ensuring robust security practices.In this lively episode of On Location with Marco Ciappelli, Daisy Wong spotlighted the indispensable role of human behavior, culture, and communication in cybersecurity. Her insights remind us that while technology evolves, the human element remains at the heart of effective cyber defense.Cybersecurity isn’t just about systems and software—it’s about people. And as threats become more sophisticated, so must our strategies, blending technical tools with cultural awareness to create a resilient and adaptable defense____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf
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    27 mins
  • Building Resilience in a Disruptive Digital Landscape while Being Green by Design: Addressing the Carbon Footprint in Cybersecurity | An Australian Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne Conversation with Sian John | On Location Coverage

    Building Resilience in a Disruptive Digital Landscape while Being Green by Design: Addressing the Carbon Footprint in Cybersecurity | An Australian Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne Conversation with Sian John | On Location Coverage
    Nov 27 2024
    Guest: Sian John, Chief Technology Officer, NCC GroupOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/sian-john/Hosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesDuring the recent AISA Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne, notable figures Sean Martin and Sian John engaged in a compelling conversation about emerging trends and significant topics within the cyber industry. The discussion covered a range of subjects from the importance of availability in operational technology (OT) security to the environmental implications of artificial intelligence (AI) and analytics. Sean Martin noted the communal focus of the conference, highlighting how initiatives driven by members of the industry, like those led by the AISA Perth chapter (as noted by Sian John), contribute significantly to the cybersecurity community.Sian John MBE provided an in-depth perspective on the global regulatory landscape, pointing out how digital disruption is driving an increase in regulations. She emphasized that privacy regulations now affect more people worldwide than ever before. John observes that while some regions might roll back regulations, the overall trend is increasing around regulatory scrutiny.Another key topic was the carbon impact of AI and analytics. Sian John pointed out the substantial environmental cost associated with training large language models, referencing research by PwC and Microsoft showcasing the significant carbon footprint involved. She argued for the need to integrate sustainability into technological advancements, coining it 'green by design.'The conversation also touched on the vital importance of OT security in the context of achieving net-zero carbon emissions and advancing renewable technology. John pointed out that while OT security has been a topic of discussion for some time, the urgency is now heightened as regulatory focus intensifies and renewable energy projects increase. When it comes to triggers that drive action, finance could win out over regulation in this case.The dialogue also explored the broader implications of security, extending beyond the traditional realms to incorporate business resilience. Martin stressed the necessity for organizations to adopt a risk-aware approach that encompasses both cyber and business risks. He posits that mature organizations, which effectively integrate resilience into their operations, are more adept at navigating regulatory changes and emerging threats.Finally, the cost of security and operational efficiency was discussed. Both speakers agreed that in a world with rising power costs, the drive towards efficient, sustainable practices is also economically motivated. This underscores the intersection of cost, regulation, and sustainability in today's business strategies. As the conversation drew to a close, the future-oriented outlook shared by both speakers reflected a pragmatic approach to the complexities of modern cybersecurity, emphasizing efficiency, regulatory compliance, and sustainability.____________________________This Episode’s SponsorsThreatlocker: https://itspm.ag/threatlocker-r974____________________________ResourcesLearn more and catch more stories from Australian Cyber Conference 2024 coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/australian-cyber-conference-melbourne-2024-cybersecurity-event-coverage-in-australiaBe sure to share and subscribe!____________________________Catch all of our event coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/technology-cybersecurity-society-humanity-conference-and-event-coverageTo see and hear more Redefining CyberSecurity content on ITSPmagazine, visit: https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastTo see and hear more Redefining Society stories on ITSPmagazine, visit:https://www.itspmagazine.com/redefining-society-podcastWant to tell your Brand Story Briefing as part of our event coverage?Learn More 👉 https://itspm.ag/evtcovbrf
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    16 mins

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