In what is arguably the best television show ever written, Aaron Sorkin captured the spirit of a White House and a President. The show was The West Wing. The President was Jed Bartlett. The phrase that was repeated over seven seasons was “What’s Next?”. Today, many of us are asking the same thing.

Hello everyone, and welcome to episode 160 of the Resilient Journey podcast, presented by the Resilience Think Tank.

This is an episode that every risk management, business continuity and crisis management professional needs to hear as we welcome long-term political advisor and crisis management expert John Ashford back to the podcast. John and Mark talk about the pending change in Washington with Republican control of the Oval Office and both houses of Congress. John offers an intentionally balanced view of what’s next – as it relates to tariffs, deregulation, infrastructure and the new administration’s impact on Ukraine and all of Europe.

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They say you can’t improve what you don’t measure. So what do we do? Maturity assessments? KPIs? Metrics? How do we translate all of this information into an effective story. What does good look like for your organization? Stick around and find out.

Hello everyone, and welcome to episode 159 of the Resilient Journey podcast, presented by the Resilience Think Tank.

This week, we discuss the ‘why, what, when, and how’ of program measurement and maturity assessments with industry veteran Stuart Murray. Stuart emphasizes the importance of telling your story by reporting on what truly matters to your executive team. He explains that simply counting completed BIAs or updated plans doesn’t convey the full picture. Instead, he highlights three key areas of effective measurement: completeness, quality, and compliance. Stuart reminds us that having complete plans doesn’t necessarily mean they are of high quality.

Plus, Mark explores the KPIs that executives prioritize, setting the stage for a future episode.

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This week’s guest calls himself a thorn in the side of the resilience industry. He doesn’t believe in documented plans, leveraging Mike Tyson’s quote – “Everybody has a plan until you get punched in the face.” Simply put, heeees baaaack!

Hello everyone and welcome to episode 158 of the Resilient Journey podcast, presented by the Resilience Think Tank.

This week, resilience antagonist Mark Armour joins the podcast to talk about how to prepare and empower organizations without using documented business continuity plans. He believes organizations can have a great deal of capability without a plan. For him, our industry focuses too much on documentation and not enough on capability.

Mark and Mark talk about the difference between plans and planning. And they discuss the difference between capability and compliance.

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Want to learn more about Mark? Click here or on LinkedIn or Twitter.

Special thanks to Bensound for the music.