What can a family argument teach you about leadership? In this episode, we’ll uncover surprising lessons from a simple disagreement that will transform how you handle challenges. Discover how empathy, humility, and clear communication can elevate your leadership and strengthen your connections. Tune in and start applying these powerful insights today!

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE

• How to apply humility and empathy when managing passenger delays and frustrations

• The importance of communication and being present in both professional and personal situations

• How to build trust and connection with passengers or loved ones through authentic apologies

• Insights on emotional responsibility, whether in aviation or family life

• The power of leadership through emotional awareness and humility

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Are you ready to take your preparation to the next level? Don’t wait until it’s too late. Use the promo code “R4P” and save 10% on all our services. Check us out at www.spitfireelite.com!

If you want to recommend someone to guest on the show, email Nik at podcast@spitfireelite.com, and if you need a professional pilot resume, go to www.spitfireelite.com/podcast/ for FREE templates!

SPONSOR

Are you a pilot just coming out of the military and looking for the perfect second home for your family? Look no further! Reach out to Marty and his team by visiting www.tridenthomeloans.com to get the best VA loans available anywhere in the US.

If you’re a professional pilot looking for a great financial planning partner for your retirement, tax, and investment, go to www.tpope.ceterainvestors.com/contact or call ‭704-717-8900 x120‬ to schedule a consultation appointment with Timothy P. Pope, CFP®.

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Ever wondered what it’s like to go from piloting Predator drones in the Air Force to flying cargo under the stars? Jonathan Songer shares an epic journey of resilience, high-stakes decisions, and surprising lessons learned from life in the sky. From unconventional career moves to his unique take on mentorship, this conversation will change how you view the aviation world. Tune in and get ready to see flying from a whole new perspective!

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE

• Strategies for navigating challenging work schedules as a pilot

• Life adjustments to make your dream of flying a reality

• Unique challenges of flying in non-radar airspace and the adrenaline rush of low-level cargo runs

• What it’s like to fly just above the ground with complex maneuvers in tight airspaces

• How Jonathan transitioned from Air Force drones to a 737 cockpit

RESOURCES/LINKS MENTIONED

• The Citadel

• JetBlue

• OBAP Ace Academy

• Delta Professional

• SkyWest Airlines

• Envoy Air

ABOUT JONATHAN SONGER

Jonathan is a Boeing 737 First Officer with Kalitta Charters II, a Part 121 Supplemental Airline Carrier. With over 1,600 hours in crewed aircraft and 4,000 hours in remotely piloted aircraft, Jonathan is an expert in flight safety, aviation decision-making, and crew resource management. He previously served as a subject matter expert in unmanned systems and as the Senior Manager for Advanced Air Mobility with MassDOT Aeronautics and MassAutonomy.

Jonathan’s experience in the defense industry includes working with medium-altitude, long-endurance unmanned aircraft as an instructor, evaluator/check airman, and lead pilot. He also served in the United States Air Force as an Air Mobility pilot on the KC-135 Stratotanker and as a Squadron Commander and Director of Operations for MQ-1 and MQ-9 remotely piloted aircraft. During his tenure in the USAF, he was Chief of Unmanned Intelligence Systems at US Air Forces Central Command. Jonathan holds an Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) Certificate and an FAA Part 107 Remote Pilot Certificate. He earned a B.S. in Physics from The Citadel and an M.S. in Military Operations from Air University.

CONNECT WITH JONATHAN

• LinkedIn: Jonathan Songer

CONNECT WITH US

Are you ready to take your preparation to the next level? Don’t wait until it’s too late. Use the promo code “R4P” and save 10% on all our services. Check us out at www.spitfireelite.com!

If you want to recommend someone to guest on the show, email Nik at podcast@spitfireelite.com, and if you need a professional pilot resume, go to www.spitfireelite.com/podcast/ for FREE templates!

SPONSOR

Are you a pilot just coming out of the military and looking for the perfect second home for your family? Look no further! Reach out to Marty and his team by visiting www.tridenthomeloans.com to get the best VA loans available anywhere in the US.

If you’re a professional pilot looking for a great financial planning partner for your retirement, tax, and investment, go to www.tpope.ceterainvestors.com/contact or call ‭704-717-8900 x120‬ to schedule a consultation appointment with Timothy P. Pope, CFP®.

Be ready for takeoff anytime with 3D-stretch, stain-repellent, and wrinkle-free aviation uniforms by Flight Uniforms. Just go to www.flightuniform.com and type the code SPITFIREPOD20 to get a special 20% discount on your first order.

Aviation isn't just about flying high; it's about the connections that lift you along the way. Join us as we explore the ‘Art of Ascending,’ sharing why authentic relationships are the real fuel for a lasting career. Learn how to approach each interaction with a mindset of giving, not just taking, and watch as your career and personal growth soar to new heights.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE

• Why building authentic relationships is as important as technical skills in aviation

• How to foster long-term professional connections based on trust and mutual respect

• Tips for attending aviation recruiting events and connecting with the right people

• Dangers of treating relationships as transactions and how to avoid them

• The role of mutual respect and shared passion in building a trusted network within the aviation community

CONNECT WITH US

Are you ready to take your preparation to the next level? Don’t wait until it’s too late. Use the promo code “R4P” and save 10% on all our services. Check us out at www.spitfireelite.com!

If you want to recommend someone to guest on the show, email Nik at podcast@spitfireelite.com, and if you need a professional pilot resume, go to www.spitfireelite.com/podcast/ for FREE templates!

SPONSOR

Are you a pilot just coming out of the military and looking for the perfect second home for your family? Look no further! Reach out to Marty and his team by visiting www.tridenthomeloans.com to get the best VA loans available anywhere in the US.

If you’re a professional pilot looking for a great financial planning partner for your retirement, tax, and investment, go to www.tpope.ceterainvestors.com/contact or call ‭704-717-8900 x120‬ to schedule a consultation appointment with Timothy P. Pope, CFP®.

Be ready for takeoff anytime with 3D-stretch, stain-repellent, and wrinkle-free aviation uniforms by Flight Uniforms. Just go to www.flightuniform.com and type the code SPITFIREPOD20 to get a special 20% discount on your first order.

Starting a flight school is no easy feat, as Cara Kirkland can attest. From finding the right aircraft and instructors to navigating school partnerships and unexpected equipment challenges, she shares the real-world obstacles she's faced and how she's creating opportunities for the next generation of pilots.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE

• The power of leveraging partnerships and non-profit organizations for aviation training

• Actionable ways to sustain a flight training business during periods of slow airline hiring

• Key challenges in ensuring students understand the rigor of aviation training

• Financial challenges Cara faced during flight training and how she balanced her obligations while pursuing her passion for teaching

RESOURCES/LINKS MENTIONED

• ATP Flight School

ABOUT CARA KIRKLAND

Cara is a dedicated Certified Flight Instructor (CFI, CFI-I, MEI) and co-founder of the Aviator Academy of Texas. With a background as a licensed nurse, Cara brings a unique skill set to her instruction, prioritizing both safety and education in her teaching style. Her journey in aviation began in 2022 when she completed her training at ATP Flight School. Cara is passionate about mentoring aspiring pilots and creating pathways for young people to enter the world of aviation. She co-founded Aviator Academy of Texas to provide high school and middle school students with opportunities to explore aviation careers through a nonprofit flight school program.

CONNECT WITH CARA

• Website: Aviator Academy of Texas

• LinkedIn: Cara (Paige) Kirkland

• Email: carakirkland95@gmail.com

CONNECT WITH US

Are you ready to take your preparation to the next level? Don’t wait until it’s too late. Use the promo code “R4P” and save 10% on all our services. Check us out at www.spitfireelite.com!

If you want to recommend someone to guest on the show, email Nik at podcast@spitfireelite.com, and if you need a professional pilot resume, go to www.spitfireelite.com/podcast/ for FREE templates!

SPONSOR

Are you a pilot just coming out of the military and looking for the perfect second home for your family? Look no further! Reach out to Marty and his team by visiting www.tridenthomeloans.com to get the best VA loans available anywhere in the US.

If you’re a professional pilot looking for a great financial planning partner for your retirement, tax, and investment, go to www.tpope.ceterainvestors.com/contact or call ‭704-717-8900 x120‬ to schedule a consultation appointment with Timothy P. Pope, CFP®.

Be ready for takeoff anytime with 3D-stretch, stain-repellent, and wrinkle-free aviation uniforms by Flight Uniforms. Just go to www.flightuniform.com and type the code SPITFIREPOD20 to get a special 20% discount on your first order.

Discover the critical skills and mindset that separate good pilots from true aces as Nik pulls back the curtain on the importance of situational awareness, comprehensive planning, and the willingness to execute a go-around when necessary. This episode is a must-listen for mastering the art of navigating the unexpected. Dive in!

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE

• The importance of planning for the go-around, not just the landing

• How to maintain situational awareness in case of an alternate landing or unexpected conditions

• Why effective communication with crew vital for go-arounds

• A vital mindset a pilot should have when choosing a safe approach during flight

• The power of learning from experiences to improve approach planning and flight execution

CONNECT WITH US

Are you ready to take your preparation to the next level? Don’t wait until it’s too late. Use the promo code “R4P” and save 10% on all our services. Check us out at www.spitfireelite.com!

If you want to recommend someone to guest on the show, email Nik at podcast@spitfireelite.com, and if you need a professional pilot resume, go to www.spitfireelite.com/podcast/ for FREE templates!

SPONSOR

Are you a pilot just coming out of the military and looking for the perfect second home for your family? Look no further! Reach out to Marty and his team by visiting www.tridenthomeloans.com to get the best VA loans available anywhere in the US.

If you’re a professional pilot looking for a great financial planning partner for your retirement, tax, and investment, go to www.tpope.ceterainvestors.com/contact or call ‭704-717-8900 x120‬ to schedule a consultation appointment with Timothy P. Pope, CFP®.

Be ready for takeoff anytime with 3D-stretch, stain-repellent, and wrinkle-free aviation uniforms by Flight Uniforms. Just go to www.flightuniform.com and type the code SPITFIREPOD20 to get a special 20% discount on your first order.

In this episode, Caleb Keller shares his unique journey from an unexpected career path to building something truly special in aviation. Along the way, he learned powerful lessons about passion, business, and balancing it all. If you're ready to take a deeper dive into the world of aviation and entrepreneurship, you won’t want to miss this conversation!

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE

• How Caleb Keller transitioned from the family auto dealership to becoming a flight school owner and instructor

• The surprising power of relationships and networking

• Unique challenges in juggling a family, running a business, and pursuing your dream of becoming an airline pilot

• Benefits of getting an A&P license

• Difference between training for general aviation and prepping for the airlines

• The step-by-step process Caleb followed to launch his niche flight school and why he chose to specialize in tailwheel training

RESOURCES/LINKS MENTIONED

• ForeFlight

• Sporty's Pilot Shop

ABOUT CALEB KELLER

Caleb is the founder of Appalachian Aviators, based at Keller Bros Airport (08N) in Schaefferstown, Pennsylvania. After 12 years in his family’s auto dealership business, Caleb transitioned to aviation, starting as an A&P mechanic and now focusing on teaching tailwheel training as a Certified Flight Instructor. He prioritizes serving his students’ goals rather than building hours for himself. Since founding his school in 2020, it has grown beyond his expectations, allowing him to share the joy of flight with others.

CONNECT WITH CALEB

• Website: Appalachian Aviators

CONNECT WITH US

Are you ready to take your preparation to the next level? Don’t wait until it’s too late. Use the promo code “R4P” and save 10% on all our services. Check us out at www.spitfireelite.com!

If you want to recommend someone to guest on the show, email Nik at podcast@spitfireelite.com, and if you need a professional pilot resume, go to www.spitfireelite.com/podcast/ for FREE templates!

SPONSOR

Are you a pilot just coming out of the military and looking for the perfect second home for your family? Look no further! Reach out to Marty and his team by visiting www.tridenthomeloans.com to get the best VA loans available anywhere in the US.

If you’re a professional pilot looking for a great financial planning partner for your retirement, tax, and investment, go to www.tpope.ceterainvestors.com/contact or call ‭704-717-8900 x120‬ to schedule a consultation appointment with Timothy P. Pope, CFP®.

Be ready for takeoff anytime with 3D-stretch, stain-repellent, and wrinkle-free aviation uniforms by Flight Uniforms. Just go to www.flightuniform.com and type the code SPITFIREPOD20 to get a special 20% discount on your first order.

Dive into the world of aviation with us as we uncover the critical role of pilot preparation. Find out how pilots build trust with their aircraft, stay composed under intense pressure, and make decisive actions during emergencies. See how meticulous preparation not only boosts safety but turns daunting challenges into manageable tasks.

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE

• The value of building a partnership with your aircraft based on trust and knowledge

• Why repetition in training is key to automatic, effective responses in emergencies

• Reacting impulsively vs. responding intentionally in high-pressure situations

• How a well-prepared pilot gains confidence and control, even in unexpected events

• Strategies for viewing potential crises as manageable challenges rather than overwhelming threats

CONNECT WITH US

Are you ready to take your preparation to the next level? Don’t wait until it’s too late. Use the promo code “R4P” and save 10% on all our services. Check us out at www.spitfireelite.com!

If you want to recommend someone to guest on the show, email Nik at podcast@spitfireelite.com, and if you need a professional pilot resume, go to www.spitfireelite.com/podcast/ for FREE templates!

Summary:

Join us for a deep dive into mortgage strategies every pilot needs to know with Marty Medve of Trident Home Loans. In this episode, he’ll share unique insights on navigating pilot pay, leveraging VA loans, and building a rock-solid financial foundation. Whether you’re eyeing your first home or expanding your real estate portfolio, Marty’s expertise will help you make smart, future-focused decisions. So tune in!

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN FROM THIS EPISODE

• Strategic refinancing tips to help pilots maximize pay without high costs and avoid common refinancing traps

• Why your future earnings could qualify you for a bigger, better home sooner than you think

• How choosing the right mortgage plan can provide peace of mind

• Common refinancing pitfalls and how to dodge the costly mistakes many make

• How to leverage career moves to align with your lifestyle while growing your financial stability

RESOURCES/LINKS MENTIONED

• Organization of Black Aerospace Professionals

• Tales From The Cockpit by Desmon Butts | Paperback and Hardcover

ABOUT MARTY MEDVE
Marty is a U.S. Naval Academy graduate with a BS in Mathematics. He launched his career as a Navy Carrier Pilot, flying the EA6B Prowler. His path began in Pensacola, FL, where he trained as a pilot after competing on the Academy’s Heavy Weight Crew team. Over the years, Marty transitioned into a dual career as a commercial airline pilot and Senior Broker at Trident Home Loans. With more than two decades of experience in the mortgage industry, he is now a highly trusted financial partner for pilots, providing mortgage solutions that meet the unique financial needs of aviation professionals.

CONNECT WITH MARTY

• Website: Trident Home Loans

• Email: marty@mythl.com

• Phone: 850-346-0250

CONNECT WITH US

Are you ready to take your preparation to the next level? Don’t wait until it’s too late. Use the promo code “R4P” and save 10% on all our services. Check us out at www.spitfireelite.com!

If you want to recommend someone to guest on the show, email Nik at podcast@spitfireelite.com, and if you need a professional pilot resume, go to www.spitfireelite.com/podcast/ for FREE templates!

SPONSOR

Are you a pilot just coming out of the military and looking for the perfect second home for your family? Look no further! Reach out to Marty and his team by visiting www.tridenthomeloans.com to get the best VA loans available anywhere in the US.

If you’re a professional pilot looking for a great financial planning partner for your retirement, tax, and investment, go to www.tpope.ceterainvestors.com/contact or call ‭704-717-8900 x120‬ to schedule a consultation appointment with Timothy P. Pope, CFP®.

Be ready for takeoff anytime with 3D-stretch, stain-repellent, and wrinkle-free aviation uniforms by Flight Uniforms. Just go to www.flightuniform.com and type the code SPITFIREPOD20 to get a special 20% discount on your first order.