The Coaching Psychology Pod

By: Dr. Natalie Lancer | The British Psychological Society
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  • This podcast is brought to you by the Division of Coaching Psychology, part of the British Psychological Society. We unpack Coaching Psychology and will help you take a thoughtful and considered approach to your coaching practice. Every month, host, Dr Natalie Lancer, Chartered Psychologist and Secretary of the Division of Coaching Psychology, brings you a conversation with a panel of selected experts where we talk about specialised coaching topics that will directly impact your work as a coach. As you are listening, to find out more, head to the Division of Coaching Psychology’s webpage on the British Psychological Society’s website. We would love to hear your thoughts and reflections on the podcast. Please email us at docp-tcppod@bps.org.uk
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  • 08: Neurodiversity in Coaching

    08: Neurodiversity in Coaching
    Oct 1 2024
    In this podcast episode, Dr. Natalie Lancer with Professor Almuth McDowall, Cara Langford Watts, Pippa Simou and Dr. Francoise Orlov, consider the multifaceted nature of neurodiversity coaching encompassing personal neurodiversity journeys, training, supervision and research. The speakers explore the challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals, particularly women with ADHD and/or autism, and stress the importance of creating inclusive coaching environments. They delve into the double empathy problem, ethical dilemmas, and practical strategies for support. We discuss: What is neurodivergence and how do neurodiversities show up in coaching?What value can coaching bring to neurodiverse individuals?How can coaches support creating inclusive environments for neurodiverse coaches?What are the challenges and positive developments in neurodiversity coaching?What are the limitations of traditional coaching models when considering neurodiversity?What is the ‘whole sphere’ of neurodiversity and how does neurodiversity intersect with other marginalised identities?How can we best understand autistic women's experiences in the workplace?What are the misconceptions faced by women and girls with ADHD?How can coaching strategies support attendance and workplace inclusivity?What specific strategies and techniques can coaches employ when working with neurodivergent coachees?What are the ethical considerations in supporting neurodivergent individuals? Coaches who work with neurodivergent people can be neurotypical or neurodiverse themselves and we discuss the importance of understanding the individual needs and how to co-determine what kind of coach and approach would be best. Coaches and their clients benefit from developments in research and training programmes for neurodiversity coaching as they become more equipped to grasp the complexities and nuances of neurodiversity coaching. Our guests today are: Almuth McDowall is Professor of Organisational Psychology at Birkbeck, University of London. With Dr Nancy Doyle, she co-directs the Centre for Neurodiversity Research at Work and co-authored Neurodiversity Coaching: A Psychological Approach to Supporting Neurodivergent Talent and Career Potential. Making people happy at work is at the core of Almuth’s mission – she advocates for approaches which support everyone to thrive. Her award-winning research has been funded by research councils, professional associations and charities, and she is widely published in the academic and practitioner literature. Almuth is passionate about dissemination of research to practitioner audiences, is a sought-after speaker and consultant, and makes frequent appearances in the press, on radio and TV. Cara Langford Watts is a Coaching Psychologist and the Director of Neuro Directions, specialising in providing progressive coaching services tailored to neurodivergent individuals. Cara brings a down-to-earth blend of personal insight, drawing from her own lived experience of ADHD and dyslexia combined with a wealth of professional expertise in coaching neurodivergent clients. Cara is actively working to integrate coaching research and practice through a neurodiverse lens. Her recent Master's research was on autistic women's experiences of workplace coaching and ableist power dynamics. By challenging conventional coaching theories, research paradigms, and practices, Cara passionately advocates for inclusivity. Her mission is to challenge societal norms, paving the way for a more equitable and diverse coaching landscape. Pippa Simou is a coaching psychologist, specialising in supporting women and girls to live well with ADHD and other conditions that may also be present. With 20 years of experience in secondary education and diagnosed with ADHD at 44, Pippa joined a local charity, working to support parents and professionals who live or work with children who have ADHD and/or Autism. She started ‘The ADD-vantage' in 2020, offering support services to women and girls with ADHD symptoms, and also mentors girls in local schools, trains professionals, coaches women with ADHD one-to-one and facilitates support groups. Awarded a Distinction for her MSc in Psychology, Pippa continues to be involved in research at the University of Hertfordshire. Dr Francoise Orlov is a Master Practitioner Coach, Mentor and Coaching Supervisor with 30 years of international experience. She is a member of the world-renowned 100 Coaches community of top coaches and leadership experts. Her expertise integrates theoretical knowledge, emotional intelligence, and practical experience to support her clients in steering complex, international projects through high stakes situations. Francoise previously held senior management and board level positions and was an academic in Strategy and Project Management. An advocate for the professionalisation of coaching, she has authored contributions to several coaching publications, encouraging an eclectic and ...
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    1 hr and 20 mins
  • 07: Trauma-informed Coaching

    07: Trauma-informed Coaching
    Sep 1 2024

    In this episode, Dr. Natalie Lancer and Julia Vaughan Smith, Kate Brassington, and Jenny Rogers, explore the nuances of trauma-informed coaching. The panel give thought to the complexities and responsibilities involved in trauma-informed coaching, discussing the internal dynamics of trauma, its influence on coaching practices, and the importance of sensitivity to clients' experiences. The conversation covers the distinctions between coaching and therapy, ethical considerations, and the skills necessary for trauma-informed coaching, such as presence, attunement, and reflective practice. The importance of safeguarding, establishing boundaries, and self-care for coaches is also addressed.

    We consider:

    • What is trauma and how can we recognise it in our coaching practice?
    • What are the reasons why clients seek trauma-informed coaching?
    • What are the benefits for the client of working with a trauma-informed coach?
    • Where is the overlap between coaching and therapy in addressing trauma-related issues?
    • How can we address trauma in coaching?
    • What are the core qualities and skills needed to coach in a trauma-informed way?
    • How can we train to become a more trauma-informed coach?
    • Do self-care and supervision look different for trauma-informed coaches?
    • How should we contract appropriately for client safety?
    • What are the risks, safe-guards and limits of trauma-informed coaching?
    • In what ways can coaching contribute to trauma healing?

    Our experts shared their approaches to working with trauma in coaching, for example, understanding clients' backstories without explicitly using the term “trauma”. Trauma can be subtly present in coaching sessions, even when clients may not explicitly seek help for trauma-related issues. Trauma-informed coaching helps clients process trauma in the present and integrate their experiences in safe ways through creating a trusting environment where they feel heard and understood.

    Our guests today are:

    Jenny Rogers is a leader in a new approach to coaching which combines insights from psychotherapy with the pragmatic emphasis on change, drawing on a career in coaching spanning three decades. She works with senior clients in the law, medicine, finance, healthcare, performing arts and media who typically face a major transition in their lives. Jenny won the Henley Business School Award for Outstanding Contribution to Coaching in 2019. She is the author of Are You Listening? and nine other books on coaching.

    Julia Vaughan Smith is an Accredited Master Executive Coach and Supervisor and was in private practice as a Psychotherapist, focusing on trauma processing and healing. Together with Jenny Rogers, she has co-facilitated Masterclasses and associated workshops on trauma and coaching. She is the author of a number of books including ‘Coaching and Trauma’, ‘Therapist to Coach’, and ‘Daughters: How to Untangle Yourself from Your Mother’, exploring the impact of developmental and ancestral trauma on this relationship and how to become untangled.

    Kate Brassington is a Coaching Psychologist (GMBPsS) and PCC ICF-certified Trauma Informed Coach who researches applied coaching strategies. She has published her research on resilience training for people in high-risk occupations. She hosts a podcast called ‘Refreshing Leadership’ which brings to life applied trauma-informed coaching for leaders in all walks of life. She works with a wide range of people from teens to 70+’s; with executives, retirees, solo-entrepreneurs, and more. She offers pro-bono coaching to military amputees through the charity BLESMA.

    Your host, Dr Natalie Lancer, is a Chartered Coaching Psychologist, and British Psychological Society (BPS) Registered Supervisor. She is the Chair of the BPS’s Division of Coaching Psychology and an accredited member of the Association for Coaching. She is the host of this podcast series and invites you to email any comments to docp-tcppod@bps.org.uk

    https://www.bps.org.uk/member-networks/division-coaching-psychology

    © British Psychological Society 2024
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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • 06: Psychodynamics in Coaching

    06: Psychodynamics in Coaching
    Aug 1 2024

    In this episode of The Coaching Psychology Pod, host Dr. Natalie Lancer, with Raul Aparici, an integrative coach and psychotherapist, and Dr. Susan Kahn, a psychodynamic coaching psychologist, engage in a rich discussion about the nuances of psychodynamic coaching. We explore the wounded and celebrated self, emphasising the need for coaches to be self-aware and to understand their own vulnerabilities. The conversation also covers the contributions of influential thinkers such as Winnicott and Bion, and the use of creative techniques in coaching. The importance of ethical boundaries, supervision, and respecting client defenses in deep psychodynamic work is highlighted.

    We ask:

    • What is psychodynamic coaching?
    • What is the difference between psychotherapy and psychodynamic coaching?
    • Which tools and concepts are useful in psychodynamic coaching?
    • Does goal-setting show up in psychodynamic coaching?
    • What are the challenges in using psychodynamic terminology with clients?
    • Why is containment, referral and maintaining boundaries in the coaching relationship important?
    • What roles do supervision, reflective practice and self-awareness have in psychodynamic coaching work?
    • Who are influential thinkers in the field of psychodynamic coaching?
    • How can we train in psychodynamic coaching?
    • What are the risks and rewards of psychodynamic coaching?

    The importance of taking a client-centred approach is emphasised in psychodynamic coaching. It privileges understanding the unconscious and the here and now in coaching relationships, such as unpicking transference and counter transference in coaching sessions. Psychodynamic coaching draws upon a rich lineage of a specific set of assumptions and philosophical foundations, aspects of which we cover in our conversation. Learn how this distinctive approach can be integrated into your coaching practice with expert guidance and education in this field. Our guests today are:

    Dr Susan Kahn is a Chartered Coaching Psychologist and Business Psychologist, an executive coach, consultant, mediator, BPS registered supervisor and author. She writes about below the surface dynamics at work and her research interests encompass vulnerability, conflict, leadership and resilience. She has written three books, Death & the City: On Loss, Mourning and Melancholia at Work; Bounce Back, How to Fail Fast and be Resilient at Work and Reinvent Yourself: Psychological Insights that will Transform your Work Life. She is also a lecturer at Birkbeck, University of London, teaching coaching and organisational psychology, and is a faculty member at the School of Life, working with businesses to develop their emotional intelligence.

    Raul Aparici is a coach, psychotherapist, consultant and facilitator. He is the Head of Faculty for The School of Life, a global organisation focussed on delivering psychological and philosophical insights to help people learn, heal and grow. With a diverse background in literature, fitness, management and consulting, an MA in Critical theory, and an MA in Gestalt Therapy Theory, he is driven by curiosity and a desire to help others make the most out of their current situation and likes to match academic insights with commercial pragmatism. He provides Equine Assisted Coaching and Leadership Consulting with Operation Centaur in Richmond Park and he is the former Programme Director for Coaching Psychology at Birkbeck College, University of London.

    Your host, Dr Natalie Lancer, is a Chartered Coaching Psychologist, and British Psychological Society (BPS) Registered Supervisor. She is the Chair of the BPS’s Division of Coaching Psychology and an accredited member of the Association for Coaching. She is the host of this podcast series and invites you to email any comments to docp-tcppod@bps.org.uk

    https://www.bps.org.uk/member-networks/division-coaching-psychology

    © British Psychological Society 2024
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    1 hr and 15 mins

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